Comments on: German Freelancer Tax http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/ Sun, 19 May 2013 17:03:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Pawel http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-74218 Pawel Mon, 21 May 2012 14:34:41 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-74218 Rising taxation = bigger government budget = more government spending = interventionism =/= liberalism Say what you want, but EU is not liberal at all, with it's fiscalism, high social care spending and price regulations. Rising taxation = bigger government budget = more government spending = interventionism =/= liberalism
Say what you want, but EU is not liberal at all, with it’s fiscalism, high social care spending and price regulations.

]]> By: anti-hate http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-74123 anti-hate Sun, 20 May 2012 09:50:14 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-74123 Do yo know anything about Germany?! I live here. It is the most liberal and capitalist you find in the old Continent (set aside the UK). This tax has nothing to do with socialism. If you pay before profit (that is no matter how much money you make) it will only favour the big guys/companies. Those that have the power to support it. This is Capitalist crap, liberal ruling. Get your ideals straight... Merkel, the Chanceller of Germany is right wing, from a right wing party: liberals. They say it so. You better read before hate! Do yo know anything about Germany?!

I live here. It is the most liberal and capitalist you find in the old Continent (set aside the UK).
This tax has nothing to do with socialism. If you pay before profit (that is no matter how much money you make) it will only favour the big guys/companies. Those that have the power to support it. This is Capitalist crap, liberal ruling.
Get your ideals straight…
Merkel, the Chanceller of Germany is right wing, from a right wing party: liberals. They say it so.
You better read before hate!

]]> By: victor http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-74052 victor Thu, 17 May 2012 15:32:52 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-74052 hey people,WAKE UP! no matter the kind of government you have: capitalism,socialism,corporate socialism,religious fundamentalists and the list goes on ; I´TS ALL THE SAME,at the end of the day. rich people got richer and poor people got fucked up. nobody has to be an expert in politics and economics to see that what is important for big companies and most of politicians around the world is that they can´t stop making money if it´s not for their own benefits. anyway,hope you guys in Europe(specially in Germany) are getting ready for your fight. it´s kind of funny,thinking that "mainstream" music is being made just to sell cars,vodka and the shit to "party people". LET´S FREE OUR MIND AND THE REST WILL FOLLOW !!! cheers !!! hey people,WAKE UP!
no matter the kind of government you have: capitalism,socialism,corporate socialism,religious fundamentalists and the list goes on ; I´TS ALL THE SAME,at the end of the day.
rich people got richer and poor people got fucked up.
nobody has to be an expert in politics and economics to see that what is important for big companies and most of politicians around the world is that they can´t stop making money if it´s not for their own benefits.
anyway,hope you guys in Europe(specially in Germany) are getting ready for your fight.
it´s kind of funny,thinking that “mainstream” music is being made just to sell cars,vodka and the shit to “party people”.
LET´S FREE OUR MIND AND THE REST WILL FOLLOW !!!
cheers !!!

]]> By: papernoise http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-74050 papernoise Thu, 17 May 2012 14:50:46 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-74050 giving things new names does not make them something different. Maybe you read a bit more and then we can talk. giving things new names does not make them something different.
Maybe you read a bit more and then we can talk.

]]> By: Klemen Kotar http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73343 Klemen Kotar Wed, 16 May 2012 18:47:07 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73343 350 eur on 300-600 is a lot, damn. Still, I think "pawel" couldn't be more wrong. Privatisaton of schools (at least as I see it happening over here) has the effect that lots of people just can't afford it and the teachers (now out of work because of the forced privatization) will gladly work for peanuts. Free market... Oh what a wonderful world this is, huh...pawel? k 350 eur on 300-600 is a lot, damn. Still, I think “pawel” couldn’t be more wrong. Privatisaton of schools (at least as I see it happening over here) has the effect that lots of people just can’t afford it and the teachers (now out of work because of the forced privatization) will gladly work for peanuts. Free market…

Oh what a wonderful world this is, huh…pawel?

k

]]> By: Pawel http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73106 Pawel Wed, 16 May 2012 13:22:56 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73106 You also wrote "As an artist you rely a lot on collaboration, exchange. That’s how the economy should work as well." I agree on that, collaboration and exchange are one of the main things that drive free economy but the collaborations should be free, not forced like in socialism. You also wrote “As an artist you rely a lot on collaboration, exchange. That’s how the economy should work as well.” I agree on that, collaboration and exchange are one of the main things that drive free economy but the collaborations should be free, not forced like in socialism.

]]> By: Pawel http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73100 Pawel Wed, 16 May 2012 13:14:38 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73100 You're wrong sir, big time. You can't blame capitalism for anything that happened, because capitalism doesn't exist in western civilisation any more. The problems that we come across occur because instead of capitalism there is interventionism which is exactly what capitalism isn't about. The system, that we live in is corporate socialism - and the name doesn't come from the word "corporations". You wrote that "(the governments)still protect the banks and the financial products market (which is the cause of all the crap) and try to solve the problem by taxing people." Again that's exactly what capitalism and free market isn't about. Bailing out corporations is a proof that there is no free market, because governments are intervening and spending YOUR money to help private institutions. People don't have money, and big shots have is because governments are helping corporations and imposing taxes on the common people. Again, this has nothing to do with free market. You wrote that "If you have played in a band you’ll know that if the members are all just in total competition with each other and don’t work together, the band will go nowhere." The band member aren't competing among themselves, because they have a common goal. They might be "competing" with other bands, but that's not entirely accurate, because music is the field where the sense of "worse" and "better" is very subjective. With all due respect, you should read up on free market theories before you accuse it with your communist argumentation. Free market is just because you can do whatever you want with your life , and socialism isn't because government is choosing what is best for you, what is the best way to spend YOUR money and you don't have a vote in this (elections doesn't count). The bigger the power of governments is, the less free the market is. You’re wrong sir, big time. You can’t blame capitalism for anything that happened, because capitalism doesn’t exist in western civilisation any more. The problems that we come across occur because instead of capitalism there is interventionism which is exactly what capitalism isn’t about.
The system, that we live in is corporate socialism – and the name doesn’t come from the word “corporations”.
You wrote that “(the governments)still protect the banks and the financial products market (which is the cause of all the crap) and try to solve the problem by taxing people.” Again that’s exactly what capitalism and free market isn’t about. Bailing out corporations is a proof that there is no free market, because governments are intervening and spending YOUR money to help private institutions.
People don’t have money, and big shots have is because governments are helping corporations and imposing taxes on the common people. Again, this has nothing to do with free market.
You wrote that “If you have played in a band you’ll know that if the members are all just in total competition with each other and don’t work together, the band will go nowhere.” The band member aren’t competing among themselves, because they have a common goal. They might be “competing” with other bands, but that’s not entirely accurate, because music is the field where the sense of “worse” and “better” is very subjective. With all due respect, you should read up on free market theories before you accuse it with your communist argumentation. Free market is just because you can do whatever you want with your life , and socialism isn’t because government is choosing what is best for you, what is the best way to spend YOUR money and you don’t have a vote in this (elections doesn’t count). The bigger the power of governments is, the less free the market is.

]]> By: papernoise http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73085 papernoise Wed, 16 May 2012 07:50:13 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73085 I don't get why people are still so phobic about socialism? The fifties are long gone, we're living in 2012! Socialism is a concept of the past, and capitalism has shown that it was built on stupid dogmas made to keep the pennies rolling. What we have now is really just the consequence of all the bullshit concepts like free market, globalisation and deregulation. The crisis has shown very well that the market is not adjusting itself and competition is only making the big ones bigger. Products have become increasingly cheaper, but also cheaply made. Just look at music gear. What governments are doing (and Mrs. Merkel is certainly no exception here) is trying to adjust things without facing the actual problem. They still protect the banks and the financial products market (which is the cause of all the crap) and try to solve the problem by taxing people. This is a clear sign to me that they have either not understood anything about the financial crisis or their hands are just as equally dirty, and they don't want to loose their privileges. do you know the ratio between the highest and lowest income in Europe it's about 300:1? 0.1% of the population earns 200 times more than the rest of the people. In the USA it's a lot higher. This means 0,1% of the population suck up all the money. But the fact is: what are they doing with all the money? Not that much in the end. They don't drive the economy. What drives the eonomy is how well the remaining 99% is earning, how much they can spend. I think if we want to get out of this mess, we have to stop thinking that changing the current system means being socialists, that competition is not making the world a better place and that if the income of people was to be in a ratio of 10:0 (top to bottom) we'd have a lot less to worry about. As an artist you rely a lot on collaboration, exchange. That's how the economy should work as well. If you have played in a band you'll know that if the members are all just in total competition with each other and don't work together, the band will go nowhere. If becomes a fight and you will do a lot of things that are not in the interest of the band and won't make the music better. I don’t get why people are still so phobic about socialism? The fifties are long gone, we’re living in 2012! Socialism is a concept of the past, and capitalism has shown that it was built on stupid dogmas made to keep the pennies rolling.
What we have now is really just the consequence of all the bullshit concepts like free market, globalisation and deregulation. The crisis has shown very well that the market is not adjusting itself and competition is only making the big ones bigger. Products have become increasingly cheaper, but also cheaply made. Just look at music gear.

What governments are doing (and Mrs. Merkel is certainly no exception here) is trying to adjust things without facing the actual problem. They still protect the banks and the financial products market (which is the cause of all the crap) and try to solve the problem by taxing people.
This is a clear sign to me that they have either not understood anything about the financial crisis or their hands are just as equally dirty, and they don’t want to loose their privileges.
do you know the ratio between the highest and lowest income in Europe it’s about 300:1? 0.1% of the population earns 200 times more than the rest of the people. In the USA it’s a lot higher. This means 0,1% of the population suck up all the money. But the fact is: what are they doing with all the money? Not that much in the end. They don’t drive the economy. What drives the eonomy is how well the remaining 99% is earning, how much they can spend.
I think if we want to get out of this mess, we have to stop thinking that changing the current system means being socialists, that competition is not making the world a better place and that if the income of people was to be in a ratio of 10:0 (top to bottom) we’d have a lot less to worry about.

As an artist you rely a lot on collaboration, exchange. That’s how the economy should work as well. If you have played in a band you’ll know that if the members are all just in total competition with each other and don’t work together, the band will go nowhere. If becomes a fight and you will do a lot of things that are not in the interest of the band and won’t make the music better.

]]> By: Pawel http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73069 Pawel Tue, 15 May 2012 19:49:20 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73069 Of course it is. There is pension system and obligatory health care and high taxation to finance everything. Just because they are calling themselves "right wing", doesn't necessary make them right wing, does it? Germany has got full blown socialist system, which has to lead to bankruptcy some time in the future. Of course it is. There is pension system and obligatory health care and high taxation to finance everything. Just because they are calling themselves “right wing”, doesn’t necessary make them right wing, does it? Germany has got full blown socialist system, which has to lead to bankruptcy some time in the future.

]]> By: Geo http://www.wiretotheear.com/2012/05/15/german-freelancer-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-73064 Geo Tue, 15 May 2012 16:31:53 +0000 http://www.wiretotheear.com/?p=9511#comment-73064 It is not really Socialism -- it's coming from a right wing government imposing austerity measures at home and indeed throughout Europe. It is not really Socialism — it’s coming from a right wing government imposing austerity measures at home and indeed throughout Europe.

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