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	<title>Comments on: My Ableton Live workflow for recording vocals.</title>
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		<title>By: Spox</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-2358</link>
		<dc:creator>Spox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhhh yesss - why I didn't think about it ????...

Thank U.

second thoughts
1. what is the reason to use S/R when  we have groups ?
2. there is no possibility to use chain as i wrote i.e. A to B to D to Master ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhhh yesss - why I didn&#8217;t think about it ????&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank U.</p>
<p>second thoughts<br />
1. what is the reason to use S/R when  we have groups ?<br />
2. there is no possibility to use chain as i wrote i.e. A to B to D to Master ?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Chesler</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-2356</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Chesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Spox. Take a look at this post I did called Making Groups in Ableton Live is really easy: &lt;a href="http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/03/25/making-groups-in-ableton-live-is-really-easy/" rel="nofollow"&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt; I think it should help you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Spox. Take a look at this post I did called Making Groups in Ableton Live is really easy: <a href="http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/03/25/making-groups-in-ableton-live-is-really-easy/"  rel="nofollow">click here</a> I think it should help you.</p>
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		<title>By: Spox</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>Spox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. Question not about recording but mixing. 
is there a possibility to route track return A to B ?
or maybe another way to resolve this situation

I got 5 vocal tracks

1 - main
2 - back
345 - adlibs
i want put 2 thru delay and reverb
345 thru reverb
and all tracks thru eq &#38; compressor
so  put reverb on S/R A
Delay on track 2
and EQ and Compressor on S/R B

so easiest way for me is chain A to B to master 
but there is no sound when I put A in "send only" and turn input volume for A S/R on S/R track B all the way up.
any ideas why is that ?

hope it's all clear :)
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. Question not about recording but mixing.<br />
is there a possibility to route track return A to B ?<br />
or maybe another way to resolve this situation</p>
<p>I got 5 vocal tracks</p>
<p>1 - main<br />
2 - back<br />
345 - adlibs<br />
i want put 2 thru delay and reverb<br />
345 thru reverb<br />
and all tracks thru eq &amp; compressor<br />
so  put reverb on S/R A<br />
Delay on track 2<br />
and EQ and Compressor on S/R B</p>
<p>so easiest way for me is chain A to B to master<br />
but there is no sound when I put A in &#8220;send only&#8221; and turn input volume for A S/R on S/R track B all the way up.<br />
any ideas why is that ?</p>
<p>hope it&#8217;s all clear <img src='http://www.wiretotheear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Gavroche</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavroche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! I just started using Live but haven't tried recording vox yet. I'll be sure to use this as reference.

Since everybody here seems to make music, I am hoping some of you might be interested in taking a survey I've put together. It asks musicians how they collaborate on music, engage fans, and profit from their art. Its only 11 questions, so it will only take a minute. Thanks! 

Find the survey @ http://tinyurl.com/5ce33d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! I just started using Live but haven&#8217;t tried recording vox yet. I&#8217;ll be sure to use this as reference.</p>
<p>Since everybody here seems to make music, I am hoping some of you might be interested in taking a survey I&#8217;ve put together. It asks musicians how they collaborate on music, engage fans, and profit from their art. Its only 11 questions, so it will only take a minute. Thanks! </p>
<p>Find the survey @ <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5ce33d" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/tinyurl.com');" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5ce33d</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey oliver, yeah been reading the blog for a while now. thought i'd commented before but obviously never got around too it. i've started doing some vocals with jensen now as well, and just generally experimenting with sounds a lot more. we've been just tracking them into soundforge and then loading them as samples into renoise and messing about with them in there. we've been getting the bare bones of the tracks down and then getting the vocals down over the top, generally just doing one take. 

working with matt is great though, i just get him the tracks sent over and he does his thing. i get back excellent quality already fx'd vocals to just lay over the top. its perfect. i've actually been working on a remix of that "Revenge Plan" track as well. i finished off an electro remix but i don't think he wants it now. you're right though, his vocals are very arabic sounding in how he sings them.

hey raytrace, yeah satronica is a quality vocalist and not a bad producer either ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey oliver, yeah been reading the blog for a while now. thought i&#8217;d commented before but obviously never got around too it. i&#8217;ve started doing some vocals with jensen now as well, and just generally experimenting with sounds a lot more. we&#8217;ve been just tracking them into soundforge and then loading them as samples into renoise and messing about with them in there. we&#8217;ve been getting the bare bones of the tracks down and then getting the vocals down over the top, generally just doing one take. </p>
<p>working with matt is great though, i just get him the tracks sent over and he does his thing. i get back excellent quality already fx&#8217;d vocals to just lay over the top. its perfect. i&#8217;ve actually been working on a remix of that &#8220;Revenge Plan&#8221; track as well. i finished off an electro remix but i don&#8217;t think he wants it now. you&#8217;re right though, his vocals are very arabic sounding in how he sings them.</p>
<p>hey raytrace, yeah satronica is a quality vocalist and not a bad producer either <img src='http://www.wiretotheear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck silva</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been using Live for about 3 years now and am completely obsessed with it. 

I'm posting this blog in support for those benevolent souls that put the time in to share their tips and tricks. 

I'm interested in learning all I can about Live!

Thank you!!!!

http://boxstr.com/files/1726154_4jiqq/Art%20Of%20It.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Live for about 3 years now and am completely obsessed with it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m posting this blog in support for those benevolent souls that put the time in to share their tips and tricks. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in learning all I can about Live!</p>
<p>Thank you!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://boxstr.com/files/1726154_4jiqq/Art%20Of%20It.mp3" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/boxstr.com');" rel="nofollow">http://boxstr.com/files/1726154_4jiqq/Art%20Of%20It.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry Day</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-1625</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't use Live, but I have a similar process. Usually I mock up a basic drum track and record the basic progression with an acoustic guitar. Then after I have it sounding nice, I record it another time, but play the verses twice. So, when I'm recording vocals, I have a second chance to fix a problem. If I'm trying a different note or shortening some syllables or something I can try them when I'm thinking about it. Then, after recording, I can hear both versions, one right after the other.

Once I figure out what sounds right, I record vocals for the whole song straight through 4 or 5 times. I tend to get picky with my vocals, so often I'll work with one verse at a time, picking the lines that I like and perfecting how it sounds. I like a lot of harmonics, so I'll lay down 3 or more harmonic tracks over a verse, one verse at a time. Then I'll move onto the chorus.

One I'm finished, I'll work with the instruments and tracking them, then rework the vocals back into them again.

Not the most efficient way of doing it, but it gets done. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use Live, but I have a similar process. Usually I mock up a basic drum track and record the basic progression with an acoustic guitar. Then after I have it sounding nice, I record it another time, but play the verses twice. So, when I&#8217;m recording vocals, I have a second chance to fix a problem. If I&#8217;m trying a different note or shortening some syllables or something I can try them when I&#8217;m thinking about it. Then, after recording, I can hear both versions, one right after the other.</p>
<p>Once I figure out what sounds right, I record vocals for the whole song straight through 4 or 5 times. I tend to get picky with my vocals, so often I&#8217;ll work with one verse at a time, picking the lines that I like and perfecting how it sounds. I like a lot of harmonics, so I&#8217;ll lay down 3 or more harmonic tracks over a verse, one verse at a time. Then I&#8217;ll move onto the chorus.</p>
<p>One I&#8217;m finished, I&#8217;ll work with the instruments and tracking them, then rework the vocals back into them again.</p>
<p>Not the most efficient way of doing it, but it gets done. <img src='http://www.wiretotheear.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've recorded vocals for my own band a few times in Live. I used the arrangement view though, and like you created 3-4 duplicate tracks containing each take. I recorded a vocal take on each track.

I performed comped by using Live automation to mute the sections of tracks I did not want to use - while manually cutting and comping the takes onto one track may have been cleaner, this method allowed me to use appropriate takes to double vocals where necessary. I routed the output of the vocal takes to another track on which I kept one set of vocal effects.

That said, since I last recorded vocals I have bought Logic Studio, and find the takes/comping system in there to be fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recorded vocals for my own band a few times in Live. I used the arrangement view though, and like you created 3-4 duplicate tracks containing each take. I recorded a vocal take on each track.</p>
<p>I performed comped by using Live automation to mute the sections of tracks I did not want to use - while manually cutting and comping the takes onto one track may have been cleaner, this method allowed me to use appropriate takes to double vocals where necessary. I routed the output of the vocal takes to another track on which I kept one set of vocal effects.</p>
<p>That said, since I last recorded vocals I have bought Logic Studio, and find the takes/comping system in there to be fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: raytrace</title>
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		<dc:creator>raytrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I c - i might try dropping all my wav's/samples straight into that view first for the next track I make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I c - i might try dropping all my wav&#8217;s/samples straight into that view first for the next track I make.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Chesler</title>
		<link>http://www.wiretotheear.com/2008/07/31/my-ableton-live-workflow-for-recording-vocals/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Chesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you start building a song in Cubase for example you make a loop at the beginning of the arrangement. Imagine that loop where you start experimenting as an entire page on steroids. Thats only a small jist of it but a quick explanation of Session View.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you start building a song in Cubase for example you make a loop at the beginning of the arrangement. Imagine that loop where you start experimenting as an entire page on steroids. Thats only a small jist of it but a quick explanation of Session View.</p>
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